It Has To Be Me Episode

ACUPUNCTURE & THE FIVE ELEMENTS OF CHINESE MEDICINE

Dr. Ava Roubin

Episode #57: June 5th, 2025

THE GOLD FROM THIS EPISODE

“In Chinese medicine, we have a constitutional type that is one of the five elements—water, wood, fire, earth, and metal. We're all born with quite an equal distribution of chi through all the elements, like uncarved stone. It’s not about having this perfect balance between the five all the time. But, at that first point of shock or disconnection from the original nature, we have one element that tends to step forward. Within each element, there is this dual organ system that's working for that and denotes a bit about what your life purpose is, what you're here to experience, your personality, and what your physical, mental, emotional, and psychological development will be. How you present in the world and how you receive the world can be seen through the eyes of your element. The elements have really different presentations in a room. I work with the psycho-emotional presentations, and the journey is to work back to the core aspect, nourish that, and balance it up.”

Dr. Ava Roubin

Chinese Medicine Practitioner and Acupuncturist

“Acupuncture is a bridge between the different sensations within a person's system and outside of it. This sense of chi and vitality. I'm using points that are precisely what is required for a person in the exact moment. We have to hone in, feeling the pulses, and listening to what's going on in the room. The magic of acupuncture can be experienced in many different ways depending on the style. But, essentially, acupuncture brings somebody home to their heart, to their body, and to a sense of what's going on around them. It's a realignment of everything. We’re able to reassign chi, where there has been a misalignment, shock, or trauma. We can pull down the bricks of a dam and let the nourishment come through the whole system.”

Dr. Ava Roubin

Chinese Medicine Practitioner and Acupuncturist

“When you have an acupuncture treatment, you come into mending and healing the bits that have been rubbed a bit raw from what's going on in the world. You get soothed, put back together so you can influence your life and communities in a centered and heartfelt way. You have growth and progression of your vision, and can live it properly as opposed to coming back to the same cycles of stagnation or incompletion of your goals and dreams. The habitual patterns that we get stuck in can be signs of disharmonies within our bodies that just need a few release points. The liver may need a bit of tonifying to action your dreams, or the stomach and spleen in order to properly absorb the joy and nourishment from all of your labor. You're getting into balance so that you can live through what you've signed up to do, and be able to share that with joy, laughter, and abundance.”

Dr. Ava Roubin

Chinese Medicine Practitioner and Acupuncturist

“With Chinese medicine, we’re merging the internal and external cycles like archetypes. Indigenous medicine acknowledges inherited cycles from the womb, and works to clear ancestral trauma. When I'm in the room with a client, it's not just you on the table. There are a few people that are showing up through you.”

Dr. Ava Roubin

Chinese Medicine Practitioner and Acupuncturist

“Chinese medicine has been talking about the gut-brain connection for thousands of years. The brain is a curious organ, and it's the stomach and spleen that does a lot of the thinking and the intellect work. It’s important to get the bacteria into the gut and small intestine, working at that highest form of intelligence through food, nature, and the seasons.”

Dr. Ava Roubin

Chinese Medicine Practitioner and Acupuncturist

“When I turn up to work, I know I've done my meditation in the morning. I've wiped my feet clean of as much of the gunk that I'm going to be bringing into the room. I do continuous study because I never assume that I know enough. I want to be turning up as a practitioner that is intrigued by every symptom that you're having, in your history, who you are, and how you're turning up in the room. The less attached to my knowledge or center, the more I can hear what's going on for you, and what we need to work with.”

Dr. Ava Roubin

Chinese Medicine Practitioner and Acupuncturist

“What's meant for you won't pass you by. If it's not a mentor giving you a push forward into it, then it's going to be something else in the universe.”

Dr. Ava Roubin

Chinese Medicine Practitioner and Acupuncturist

“In the dance of any partnership, you've got to have that different way of seeing things. If you've both got the same lens, stagnation can happen.”

Dr. Ava Roubin

Chinese Medicine Practitioner and Acupuncturist

in THIS EPISODE

  • Dr. Ava Roubin takes us inside the power of Chinese medicine and acupuncture, the value of integrating Eastern and Western healing practices, and how she combined different modalities to build her unique treatment approach.

  • We retrace the path that’s made Ava a renowned practitioner. The journey forked when she walked away from the final exam to complete her medical degree. Feeling “too young” to be a doctor, she set off on a self-directed apprenticeship, traveling around the country as a massage therapist. With more life lessons under her belt, she completed her degree plus an additional five years of Chinese herbal medicine. An internship in Shanghai expanded her practice, and she felt ready to open her clinic and dispensary in Australia.

  • Giving us an overview of the 5 elements of Chinese medicine, Ava covers how your constitutional type serves as a guide to nourish your body, reset physical and emotional imbalances, and restore vitality. We dive into how acupuncture balances energy and supports recovery, enabling an embodied connection and understanding of self.

  • Ava explains her unconventional choice to incorporate massage into sessions as a way of opening deeper healing and communication. Acknowledging the significance of ancestral trauma and inherited narratives, she highlights the importance of working with our internal rhythms, seasons in nature, and the cycle of the day.

  • Whether you’re familiar with Chinese medicine or curious about it, Dr. Ava will rock your world.

TESS'S TAKEAWAYS

  • An integration of Eastern and Western medicine can enhance patient care.

  • The five elements of Chinese medicine shed light on emotional and physical health.

  • Healing is a collaboration between practitioner and client.

  • Acupuncture creates a bridge between the body and the external world.

  • Physical touch and massage facilitate deep communication and healing.

  • Cycles of nature and of the day influence our own rhythms and healing processes.

  • Chinese medicine acknowledges inherited cycles and ancestral trauma.

  • You don’t have to feel “ready” to begin. Wisdom often comes through practice.

ABOUT DR. AVA

A practitioner of Chinese Medicine, Dr. Ava Roubin has decades of experience in the healing arts. She set out on her path as a massage therapist, and evolved to a clinical and spiritual practice rooted in acupuncture, Chinese herbal medicine, and psychosomatic holistic care. 

With a Bachelor of Health Science in Chinese Medicine from Victoria University, with a double major in acupuncture and herbal medicine, Ava completed her clinical internship at Shuguan Hospital in Shanghai. It was there that she gained experience combining traditional Chinese and Western medicine in gynecology, oncology, internal medicine, and acupuncture.

Ava’s work with Five Element Acupuncture draws from ancient Taoist wisdom to support profound emotional, physical, and spiritual transformation. 

As co-founder of Elk & Me Therapies and Dispensary, Ava works with a team of multi-modality practitioners helping clients connect with their innate healing capacity.